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But his point, at least the way it comes across to me, is that the IETF simply jumped on the bandwagon of SPDY and fast tracked turning it into HTTP/2.0. Precisely the thing that you wouldn't expect a standards committee to do, because developing solid standards is hard.

Instead of spending 10 hypothetical years of their own time, doing the ground up work, they spent a small portion on HTTP/2.0. That portion is, in fact, smaller than the time spent on SPDY overall. So, how much standards-ing style work did they do? How much actual forethought was given besides making SPDY acceptable enough for a draft?

That's my takeaway.




HTTP/2 is not SPDY. They're not compatible.

The IETF mailing list archives are open if you'd like to see what 3 years of standardsing looks like. You can also go to the chair's blog (mnot.net) to read the evolution. Or Roy Fielding's presentations on Waka which were one of the early (2002) catalysts among the IETF-orbiters that lead to HTTP/2. http://gbiv.com/protocols/waka/200211_fielding_apachecon.ppt

Ultimately Waka was already a decade late, Google had SPDY which had some similarities and was already deployed, and people didn't want to wait another decade to build something no one might adopt. There were aspects of SPDY that needed changing to make it a true protocol standard rather than just a shared library, and a few features that out of rough consensus were changed.

That's how successful standards processes actually work - codifying what's already working, implemented in the field. Implementing a standard no one uses? See Atompub. See XHTML2.


IETF did a call for proposals, Google had a protocol that was up and running with others using it, MS put in a similar proposal, and another partially formed one came along too.

SPDY was the only really viable option for the IETF to choose - it was running at scale and there was knowledge out there about deploying it and it's performance.

Although SPDY was the prototype, HTTP/2 isn't SPDY anymore it's evolved and moved on taking some of the concepts from SPDY and introducing it's own.

Given how long it took HTTP/1.1 to get ratified we suck at ten year standardisation processes.


SPDY was chosen because nobody got any serious notice or time to come up with any alternatives.

If the IETF wanted a fresh look at HTTP, they would not have set such a short deadline for submissions.

It was evident from the start that this was about gold-plating & rubber-stamping SPDY, and people saw that and said so, already back then.

HTTP/2 isn't compatible with SPDY any more, but there is no significant difference between them, only a few deck-chairs were arranged differently in HTTP/2

The fact that people spend ages chewing the cud on a "clarification" of HTTP/1.1 has no impact on how long time it would take to define a HTTP/2 protocol.

Quite the contrary, HTTP/2 was a chance to jettison many of the horrors and mistakes that made the HTTP1.1bis effort so maddening.

You can see some of my thinking about what HTTP/2 should have been doing here:

http://phk.freebsd.dk/words/httpbis.html


Well, with the right kind of advocacy, couldn't the community push for httpbis and push back on http/2 ? True Google control it's servers and Chrome but not Firefox and the rest of the world. Not everybody is going to drink the KoolAid.

That would be pushing HTTP/2 to irrelevancy the same way HTML5 (for good or for worse) pushed back on XHTML. Sad way to go but if need be ...




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