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- Anti abortion law possibly being implemented on a federal level

Curious what do you base that on?






Isn't this a tentpole Republican/MAGA desire?

Why overturn Roe otherwise?

Why not implement it now when they'll control all branches of government and have a 6-3 favor in the supreme court?


> Isn't this a tentpole Republican/MAGA desire?

No, it's not.

> Why overturn Roe otherwise?

To let states decide how it should be handled, rather than a federal mandate. Allowing different possibilities to be tested - maybe in some states it will become completely illegal, maybe in others mothers will face pressure to terminate a pregnancy.


I hope you don't really think that being pro choice is about pressuring woman to terminate pregnancies.

Why do I think that's much more probable for abortion to become illegal than for women to be pressured to terminate pregnancies?

Your comment feels so innocent, but different possibilities to be tested just ends up in women being denied abortion


I think it's about as likely as it becoming illegal. There's too many good reasons to keep abortions even in a restricted state - even though it does open up a very messy moral can of worms.

There already are states where abortion is very restricted or illegal. There aren't states where terminating pregnancies is forced

Forgive my ignorance but I didn't realise there were states it was illegal in.

> There aren't states where terminating pregnancies is forced.

I personally don't think this could ever come from a mandated level (same as outright bans), I think instead we see it in the form of social pressure: and we can already see it across the US. An estimated 65% of abortions in the US are unwanted but the mother was heavily pressured by peers, family, work, etc. You can also see this in the downstream effects: getting an abortion raises your chances of suicide by 6x and depression by 4x.

Clinics also do not screen for coersion, the same way organ donations, adoptions, loans are all screened.

Again, should abortion be illegal because of the above? No. But it does indicate it's not as innocent as making sure women are ready/able/willing to have a child.


The only sources I can find about what you're saying is gutter something and lozier Institute, and by searching for them a bit it looks like they're catholic founded research. I'm gonna take what they say with a huge pinch of salt

I'm gonna trust more a study by the university of San Francisco which finds that most women don't regret having an abortion or are happy about it https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/01/416421/five-years-after-ab...


Thank you, I'm re-evaluating some of my opinions.

> To let states decide how it should be handled

If that's the case - why are states criminalizing getting an abortion in another state?

Some states decide for all states, that's the sort of thing that has to be decided on a federal level


> To let states decide how it should be handled, rather than a federal mandate. Allowing different possibilities to be tested - maybe in some states it will become completely illegal

Why should one get to play Laboratory of Democracy with women's lives?


Ballots across the country voted on various degrees of abortion and passed.

Fear, rage, and entitlement. Trump has been very clear he just doesn't want it regulated at a federal level.

He has also been very clear he wants to imprison his opponents and violently deal with immigrants. What should we believe?

> He has also been very clear he wants to imprison his opponents

When? He's gone out of his way to *not* imprison his opponents. Why do you think Hillary is still running around?

> violently deal with immigrants

*Illegal Immigrants

Not so sure about the violent part either, but let's just say that that's true.


Yet all the people he associates with do. I wonder what the most likely outcome from that might involve...



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