Endlessly debatable what counts as a win, and over what timeframe.

Did the North win the Civil War? In 1865, that answer was fairly clear. In 2024, perhaps less so. I suspect 1870s Americans would be a little surprised that Confederate flags and monuments pop up all over in the 20th and 21st centuries.

Did the Allies win WWII? Not sure, because nazi flags keep popping up everywhere, including presidential rallies in the United States.

I wonder whether conclusive victories against the worst of our natures isn’t feasible.