I lived it for a couple of years based on the framework from the book. Living on an island in Thailand diving everyday, hanging out in Bali or Barcelona.
Eventually I got a little bored with it and wanted to create bigger companies so I dove back in, but I still attribute a lot of my success to stumbling across that book one day.
As a somewhat obsessive relationship with that book, I'm looking to get into entrepreneurship soon. From everything I've read and researched about the 4HWW, people say its better to first have a working business and/or income stream, then focus on ways to automate or make single processes more efficient; As opposed to trying to start a business using the 4HWW from the 'get-go'.
What would your advice be? As someone who's lived the success, do you think its possible to start from the ground up with 4HWW in mind?
No I don't think that is usually possible. I think your first idea is correct. Work like crazy to get something working and profitable, and then work to automate it (which is frequently harder than you might think).
Doing this has helped me create bigger things as well. I create a business, more or less automate it, and then use that cashflow to work on other businesses. Eventually creating a portfolio of cashflow businesses, with a few exits in the middle.
I feel like I'm the only who has ever read the nutrition facts. It's a garbage product full of ingredients I wouldn't aim to put in my body.
Love the idea of it all, just not the science behind it.
Do you have the time to talk about what you found specifically wrong with the ingredients? Outside of the allergy risk of Soy, many of the ingredients aren't uncommon in a variety of dietary supplements and weight gain targeted products. I found soy lecithin is one of the more controversial ingredients over how it's derived, but the process isn't much different from how orange juice is extracted.
You piqued my curiosity. Here are the nutrition facts from their drink product:
Calories 400
Total Fat 21g 32%
Saturated Fat 2g 10%
Polyunsaturated Fat 2.5g
Monounsaturated Fat 16g
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 0mg 0%
Sodium 300mg 13%
Total Carbohydrate 36g 12%
Total Sugars 9g
Protein 20g
The ratios don't seem that bad. The top ingredients are water, soy protein, maltodextrin (a filler/preservative with a high glycemic index), and algal oil.
It depends how you view nutrition. I'm personally a big proponent of eating lots of cholesterol and saturated (read: stable) fats.
One of cholesterol's most important functions is to support learning and memory — the brain is basically made of cholesterol. And statin drugs provably lower cognitive function, for instance.
Anyway, it's a real rabbits hole to go down research wise, but I certainly wouldn't advocate a cholesterol-free diet like soylent.
And saturated fats have been unfairly demonized for years.
"If you deprive cholesterol from the brain, then you directly affect the machinery that triggers the release of neurotransmitters," said Shin. "Neurotransmitters affect the data-processing and memory functions. In other words -- how smart you are and how well you remember things."
"Two forms of fat that are vitally important for brain health are cholesterol and saturated fat. In the Mayo Clinic study mentioned above, it was found that those individuals consuming the most saturated fat experienced a 36% reduction in risk for developing dementia. And this comes on the heels of data now indicating that saturated fat consumption has absolutely no relevance in the area of cardiovascular risk as recently described by Dr. Glen Lawrence in the journal, Advances in Nutrition."
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This study seems to imply that large amounts of dietary cholesterol may not be needed for brain function though...
First off ingredients on labels are listed in order of most prevalent to least.
So what stands out specifically is the unhealthy oils. Sunflower and canola. I'm mobile or I would paste links, but read up on them. Horrible omega ratios, and sketchy by-products are usually found in them (hopefully Soylent at least has quality versions of this).
Also maltodextrin is always one of the main ingredients. Super high gi, and no nutritional value.
Why do you say maltodextrin has no nutritional value? From a metabolic recovery / glycogen replenishment perspective it's the most efficient thing you can ingest. Pure maltodextrin (aka "carbs in a can") mixed w/ sugarfree beverage powder is the go-to during/post-workout drink for elite athletes across many sports.
Judging by the mono-unsaturated fat content that sunflower oil is a high oleic variety. It avoids the excessive omega-6 problem of regular sunflower oil.
I'm wondering the same. The only thing that jumps out to me is 9g of sugar but even that is not bad. 20g of protein in a 400 calorie meal is pretty good.
Yeah I'm hoping the parent responds, I don't consider myself an expert on nutrition so I'm curious if theres something we're not seeing! I tried Soylent for a bit and had mixed results, but that was I think mostly due to misjudging how many calories I actually needed.
Eventually I got a little bored with it and wanted to create bigger companies so I dove back in, but I still attribute a lot of my success to stumbling across that book one day.